Michael's View: Size Does Matter...

Size Does Matter...

Size Does Matter...
     I have been running into many 40 gallon electric water heaters in my inspections, especially in rehabs. While I understand that it is all about turning a profit; 9 times out of ten, I write these up as being improperly sized. Here’s why:
     The selection of a particular type hot water supply system for a house is determined by several factors including the utility connections available, utility rates, hot water demand, and owner preference.
     There are several methods which can be used to calculate hot water demand. Each possibly will give different results. While no one single method is a perfect indicator of the actual hot water needs, the homeowner's demand will be the determining factor as to the size. Some of these factors are as follows: The number of people living in a house, occupant ages, lifestyles, work schedules, and the number of appliances using hot water.
     Most households use the highest volume of hot water during two peak periods every day. These typically occur in a two-hour period between 6:00 - 9:00 am or 5:00 - 8:00 pm each day. Regardless of the adequacy of a water heating system during off-peak periods, inadequate hot water during peak periods will lead most people to believe that there is a hot water supply or capacity problem.
     Not all water heaters are made equal; nor, are all households and demands the same. Hence, the specific water usage patterns and water heater design and capacity specifications must be considered to determine what water heating system will be most appropriate for any particular situation.
     If you are running out of hot water at various times of the day, you may need to have to change your life style or have a specialist in the appropriate trade further evaluate the size of your water heating system.
     I have attached the following guide to give a reference for selecting the appropriately sized water heater based on the number of bedrooms and bathrooms. I hope that this helps.

Water Heating Size Chart

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Comments

Morning Michael I thought you were going to talk about something else and you really got my attention :~).  I think I have a 30 gallon heater and it seems I have the right one.  Nice post sir enjoy your day :~)

Posted by James Dray (Exit Pro Realty) 4 months ago

Another factor would be the large bath tubs sometimes found in master bathrooms!  I see those often, with 40 gal tanks!

Posted by Jay Markanich - Northern VA Home Inspector (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) 4 months ago

Hi Michael - Hot water heaters are like septic systems.  They are designed around how many bedrooms are in the unit.

Posted by Webster, Ma Conrad Allen, Realtor (Re/Max Professional Asociates) 4 months ago

You are so right that each family's needs can be different.  sometimes, life style adaptations can work; other times, you really need to make an investment to alleviate the issue.

Posted by Debbie Gartner - Westchester Flooring -Hardwood Floors Carpet Tile Refinish - (Floor Coverings International Westchester NY & Stamford CT) 4 months ago

Excellent consumer information Michael and congrats on the well deserved feature.  Have a wonderful day.

Posted by Anita Clark Realtor® Warner Robins Homes for Sale ~ Warner Robins Real Estate ~ (ColdwellBanker SSK Realtors ~ 478.960.8055 ) 4 months ago

Michael- this is information every consumer can use when they are considering their hot water heaters.  At the very least it gives them help on what questions they need answered. 

Posted by Kathy Streib-Home Stager-Palm Bch County South Florida - 561-914-6224 (Room Service Home Staging) 4 months ago

Hi Michael.

Jay is right. I had a home with a really big "garden tub and a thirty gallon water heater". A little too small to even keep up with the use of the tub. I was around 80 gallons.

It would take a while to fill it. Good post. Lots of info in it.

Have a great Sunday in Nashville.

Best, Clint Mckie

Posted by Clint Mckie Desert Sun Home Inspections Home Inspections in Carlsbad New Mexico (Desert Sun Home Inspections/ Energy Audits) 4 months ago

Thanks for the chart, a good rule of thumb to go by and to pass on to buyers.

Posted by David Popoff, Lower Fairfield County, CT. (William Pitt, Sotheby's International Realty, Darien, Ct.) 4 months ago

Great information and the chart does help to educate the consumer.

Posted by Mike Yeo (3:16 team REALTY) 4 months ago

Michael -  Thanks for the chart.  I'm keeping it for both personal and business info.  As REALTORs we're always being asked questions about thing such as hot water heaters.  Now I have data from an expert!  Thanks for sharing and make it a grand Sunday my friend.

Posted by John McCormack- AlbuquerqueHomes.com (Albuquerque Homes Realty * www.AlbuquerqueHomes.com) 4 months ago

Michael...

I am considering an "on-demand" water heater when I replace my current 40 gallon heater. What do you think of those?

Posted by Richard Weisser Coweta Fayette Real Estate 4 months ago

Yep, some need 40 and some need 80. Had a home with a big master tub and had to upgrade the hot water heater. Thanks for the chart! Enjoy your day!

Posted by Wayne M. Martin, LLC 4 months ago

Michael, We occasionally have hot water supply issues because someone who shall remain nameless takes very long showers and when the husband other person takes his a shower the supply may run out before he the other person is finished :)   Bill

Posted by Liz and Bill Spear RE/MAX Elite Warren County Ohio: Cincinnati to Dayton (513.265.3004 www.LizTour.com) 4 months ago

Michael, this is a great chart to help our clients determine their needs.  Job well done!

Posted by Sharon Parisi (Keller Williams Dallas Premier Realty) 4 months ago

Michael, what a great chart -- thanks for sharing. I'm kind of surprised at the gallon differential basis gas vs. electric -- I hadn't thought of that and that took me by surprise.  For large family homes, I ALWAYS ask if there is pump on their HW system (delivers HW faster to the far reaches of the property). Many have installed them (on large properties) and it is a HUGE feature for buyers ... as two hot water "issues" buyers have is the uh Bliz syndrome (#13) of running OUT and the second one is WAITING FOREVER for HW to get to the far bathroom  Good post. Thanks!

Posted by Judith Sinnard - The Floor Plan Lady (SMARTePLANS; Houston, Texas) 4 months ago

Michael, we upgraded a bathroom with a large tub and found out our hot water heater ran cold while filling it. We had to upgrade to a larger hot water heater. Thanks for the info.

Posted by Michael Setunsky, Michael's Commercial Northern Virginia Commercial Real Estate (703.831.4028, http://michaelscommercial.com) 4 months ago

This is good information to have available. I never really gave it much thought.

Posted by Gary L Waters PLLC- Broker Associate Realtor® Melbourne Viera Rockledge FL (Century 21 Baytree Realty, 1211 Admiralty Blvd, Rockledge) 4 months ago

Thanks for the info, Michael.  I'm just getting ready to change mine.  I'm seeing more and more homes go to dual water heaters too.  Not a bad idea depending on how the house is built.

Posted by Mike Cooper (Winchester Real Estate Sales, Cornerstone Business Group Inc) 4 months ago

Size matters in most cases! When I fill the tub....it really matters. But I do like the tankless water heaters in the kitchen. I didn't at first, but now I do! Great post Michael!

Posted by Cheryl Dickson - Grand Junction Home Inspection (Affordable Inspections ASAP) 4 months ago

Great information Michael, I know that oil and gas water heaters heat up much faster than electric.

Posted by Chris Smith - South Simcoe, Caledon, King, Orangeville Real Estate (Re/Max Chay Realty Inc., Brokerage) 4 months ago

Not only does size matter, but you've proven it's how you use it too.................

Posted by Roger D. Mucci Lake, Cuyahoga and Geauga Counties (Shaken...with a Twist 216.633.2092) 4 months ago

That is a way of looking at water heater capacity that I haven't thought about before.  I live in a 3 bedroom 2 bath home.  I also live alone.  But my 4 grown kids and grandkids come home several times a year.  Most days I could probably get by with 30 gallons.  But when the family comes home and on holidays, I'm grateful for my 40 gallon capacity.

Posted by Myrl Jeffcoat (Real Living Great West Real Estate) 4 months ago

People with swimming pools also may need a larger tank. We used to have people over all the time who would shower one after another...and not lack for hot water...Can anyone imagine what it was like 100 years ago to have to boil water for a bath? I continue to be grateful for this break through

 

Posted by Richie Naggar Ran Right Realty Riverside, Ca 4 months ago

Michael, A convenience that we all want and a topic of complaint when we can't get it, is hot water.  Thanks for providing these guidelines and suggestions. Best wishes always.

Posted by Richard Yates - Broker (Coldwell Banker Real Estate) 4 months ago

I see those smaller tanks in homes with garden tubs. Wait till they have to fill it up in stages...

Posted by The Derrick Team Hendricks County Realtors (Carpenter Realtors) 4 months ago

A very common problem in my area.  Many townhouses for example use under the counter 30 or 35 gallon electric tanks.  They are insufficient for most families.

Posted by Randy L. Prothero - Hawaii REALTOR® (808) 384-5645 (Century 21 Liberty Homes ) 4 months ago

Mike,

The problem seems to be everyone wanting hot water at the same time. Fortunately dishes, and clothes can wait until off peak hours, but otherwise this is tough to control.

Brian

Posted by Brian Madigan LL.B. (RE/MAX West Realty Inc., Brokerage (Toronto)) 4 months ago

Thanks for a presenting a logical way of judging adequacy of water heaters. Can I steal it???

Posted by Marshall Brown (Inspection Consulting) 4 months ago

Michael,

Another issue with undersized tanks is people tend to crank up the temperature to get more volume. Then little joey comes along and gets burned.

Posted by Donald Hester NCW Home Inspections, LLC (NCW Home Inspections, LLC) 4 months ago

Actually Donald's comment above does add a new dimension to the post. Not only does Joey get burned but the utility bill goes up too. 

Posted by Mark Delgado - Benicia and Vallejo Property Management, rental homes, (houses for rent, Solano County & Glen Cove) 4 months ago

Great advice and help. I never knew that gas or electric fired made a difference. I will pass this along to my buyers. Thanks again for the info.

Posted by Ron Wickes - Lake Conroe (Keller Williams) 4 months ago

Great information which I'll bookmark for future reference. Thanks.

Posted by Lloyd Binen Silicon Valley R since 1976;408-565-8177 (Certified Realty Services) 4 months ago

Big Scorpio - Great information as usual and the chart is an excellent way to to educate the consumer!

Posted by Kristine Ginsberg Morris County, NJ Stager (Morris County, NJ: Elite Staging and Redesign, LLC) 4 months ago

I knew long before I even finished reading this that it was feature worthy. And my thoughts were confirmed when I did get to the bottom and saw that little gold star right there where it belongs. Nicely done my friend.

Posted by Craig Rutman Raleigh/ Cary/ Apex area Realtor (Helping people in transition) 4 months ago

You're right.. size does matter and buyers need to know this!  I come across this often in rehab deals as well.

Posted by David Artigliere, ARTI Home Inspections, ASHI Certified Home Inspector (Reading, Pottstown, Norristown, Philadelphia) 4 months ago

Michael

Thanks for sharing a very informative post.

Good luck and success.

Lou Ludwig

Posted by Lou Ludwig CRB, CRS, CIPS, GRI, SRES, TRC, e-PRO, (Ludwig & Associates) 4 months ago

Michael, Hot water and plenty of it is so important.  I just listed a home that has two 40 gallon conventional electric water heaters that are turned off.  They have a tankless propane water heater mounted on the exterior of the home and they say this supplies all of the hot water they need.  

Posted by Judi Barrett~Integrity Real Estate Services~Idabel, Oklahoma 4 months ago
This is great info. I plan to save it for future reference. Even though I'm a home stager I try to keep up on as many issues like this as I can. AR is a great way to do this. Thanks again.
Posted by Chris Twing (Twing Staging & Redesign) 4 months ago

What a great blog so true about how size matters. In my industry(water wells) we are always coming across undersized holding tanks that can reak havoc on well systems guess the same is true with hot water. Great blog just subscribed thanks for the info ~

Posted by Ashley Connolly (Northeast Water Wells Inc) 4 months ago

Michael ....Thanks for the chart ...That will come in handy!  Going to re-blog right now!

Posted by Rob Thomas Bristol TN-VA Agent, ABR, GRI, e-Pro (Prestige Homes of The Tri Cities, Inc. CALL....423-341-6954) 4 months ago

Michael, I'm putting the chart in my consumer package of useful information...this is extremely helpful...thanks

Posted by Ginny L Gorman Realtor®|North Kingstown Homes for Sale - North Kingstown RI (Phillips Post Road Realty -Waterfront homes, Short Sales) 4 months ago

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